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**Biggin** · January 25th, 2012, 09:21 PM

Phil Robbins won seven state titles, how is he not on the short list of the best coaches ever in teh area?

**UnIoNfAn** · January 25th, 2012, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Biggin

Phil Robbins won seven state titles, how is he not on the short list of the best coaches ever in teh area?

the biggest reason Phil isnt mentioned is it was proven that those 7 titles were more Barry than Phill. If you played under Barry then im sure you can agree. Phill, as I mentioned earlier, is an offensive mastermind but if he has to do anything other than his offense he cant handle it. Barry was like a NASCAR crew chief, he basicly done it all except set in the driver's seat at powell valley.

**Biggin** · January 26th, 2012, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by UnIoNfAn

the biggest reason Phil isnt mentioned is it was proven that those 7 titles were more Barry than Phill. If you played under Barry then im sure you can agree. Phill, as I mentioned earlier, is an offensive mastermind but if he has to do anything other than his offense he cant handle it. Barry was like a NASCAR crew chief, he basicly done it all except set in the driver's seat at powell valley.

Thats an absolute joke. So the DC was more important to the success of a team than the HC/OC? Give me a break. As far as I know, PV never won a state title 2-0.
Thats downplaying the contributions of Phil, and its simply inaccurate.

Not taking anything away from Jones, he was a great DC and an integral part of PVs success, but to claim he was the only reason and was more important to PV winning state titles is crazy

**UnIoNfAn** · January 26th, 2012, 12:48 PM

Barry was the O line coach, D coordinator, headed up special teams, and helped with the backfield blockers. Phill proved he couldnt win a state title without Barry. The gatecity boys can tell ya that Barry Knows football and is one heck of a motivator. I played under Barry and one year without Barry at Powell Valley and the differece was HUGE. Barry made Phill and if you played under Barry you would know that. Barry is 9 and 0 in state games, Phill is 7 and 1 (1 lose without Barry)

**1inStripes** · January 26th, 2012, 01:33 PM

Barry is 9-1 I believe. He was on staff for the Gretna blowout of GC I do believe.

**gchs_devils** · January 26th, 2012, 01:59 PM

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**Biggin** · January 26th, 2012, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by UnIoNfAn

Barry was the O line coach, D coordinator, headed up special teams, and helped with the backfield blockers. Phill proved he couldnt win a state title without Barry. The gatecity boys can tell ya that Barry Knows football and is one heck of a motivator. I played under Barry and one year without Barry at Powell Valley and the differece was HUGE. Barry made Phill and if you played under Barry you would know that. Barry is 9 and 0 in state games, Phill is 7 and 1 (1 lose without Barry)

Ive said I thought Barry was a great coach, but he was not the sole reason they won state titles, thats absurd.

Like I said, PV never won a state title 2-0. If Barry won all those titles, how come the offense always had to score 20+ points? and lol, its not like PV was running out state title talent every year after Barry left. It dropped off considerably.

If Barry was such a great coach, why has he never been a HC anywhere?

**lemonade1** · January 26th, 2012, 11:12 PM

Because he's smarter than the average bear

**UnIoNfAn** · January 27th, 2012, 10:14 AM

Barry never wanted HC. Did you play under Barry Biggin? Barry ran the show at Powell Valley. He was NOT DC, Barry was Asistant Head Coach my friend. The reason Barry hasnt had a head coaches job isnt lack of offers, its Not what he wanted to do. like lemonade1 said "Because he's smarter than the average bear". The proof that Barry made powell valley, manassas park was good enough to get beat by at 20 points from any of the 85, 89,90,94,95,97,98 Powell Valley teams but was at the same time good enough to beat Phill without Barry and give powell valley its ONLY state loss. Barry is 9 and 0 Phill is 7 and 1. Barry ran pretty much everything except offense play calling for most of his career at powell valley. Barry is the better coach